OJR - The Origin of John Roderick (ESN Systematic)

Between July and October of 2014, Brett Terpstra interviewed John during four episodes of his podcast Systematic. He released a special episode in December 2014, presenting the story as it always had been intended: One long audio novel, 289 minutes in length. Brett had been an avid listener to Roderick on the line and found it to be one of the most entertaining podcasts he has ever listened to. He got in touch with John via Merlin, asking him for an interview. John was thrilled! What was planned as just one episode extended into two, then three and finally four episodes. Brett wanted to let the fourth episode go for as long as it would be required and it ended naturally beautifully, or better: melancholy, deftly and artistically.

  • Chapter 1: Time to Get Serious (Systematic 106)
  • Chapter 2: Amsterdam to Istanbul (Systematic 110)
  • Chapter 3: Sergeant-at-Arms (Systematic 113)
  • Chapter 4: Youth and Potential (Systematic 118)

Topics covered in this show are:

  • John's first contact with music during his childhood (Family)
  • John's career as an Indie Rock musician (Career)
  • John's big walk from Amsterdam to Istanbul.
  • John's state of mind at the end of 2014 (Depression)

During the banter at the beginning of the show, they briefly talk about architecture and John points out that Merlin is the entertaining part of Roderick on the Line, while John is a very colorful spackle that holds those bricks together. On a different note, Brett said that there is a lot of abandoned exercise equipment everywhere along the streets where he lives and he should make a potlatch with that and John suggests this would be a nice coffee-table-book called "Regret".

At the end of chapter 1, they banter for some minutes about Neko Case who has a voice talent that John is missing an equivalent of.

At the end of the show, John feels that the great tragedy of his life is the tragedy of incompleteness. John has finished some things he is proud of: 3 full-lengths records and an EP, he toured around the world and he walked from Amsterdam to Istanbul, but his musical career is neither active nor officially done.

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